Ah. Following the Senate’s example, the House of Representatives has also condemned MoveOn’s pathetic advertisement:
The House on Wednesday overwhelmingly voted to condemn the liberal advocacy group MoveOn.org for a recent advertisement attacking the top U.S. general in Iraq.
By a 341-79 vote, the House passed a resolution praising the patriotism Gen. David Petraeus, the commander of U.S. forces in Iraq, and condemning a MoveOn.org ad that referred to Petraeus as “General Betray Us.”
The resolution was attached to a stopgap measure funding Cabinet budgets until mid-November
Wisconsin Rep. David Obey, a veteran Democrat, recounted how he left the Republican Party during the era of Sen. Joseph McCarthy, R-Wis., and said that lawmakers have an obligation to criticize their allies as well as their enemies when they go too far.
That’s got to smart. I’ve often wondered whether or not the Democrats were ever going to have a Sister Souljah moment with the netroots and the extremist anti-war crowd…it doesn’t seem they want to have a public moment, for fear of losing netroots dollars and support next year, but they are doing what they can to distance themselves from the BDS crowd for plausible deniability’s sake. That’s a step in the right direction.
In the meantime, Markos is making a list, and he’s checking it twice…which is briefly useful for our purposes, as it tells us who in the House stands with MoveOn, and who stands with GEN Petraeus:
Abercrombie, Ackerman, Allen, Baldwin, Becerra, Berman, Blumenauer, Corrine Brown, Capps, Capuano, Castor, Clarke, Clay, Cohen, Conyers, Crowley, Davis (IL), DeGette, Ellison, Filner, Frank (MA), Al Green, Grijalva, Gutierrez, Hastings (FL), Hinchey, Hirono, Holt, Honda, Inslee, Jackson-Lee (TX), Jefferson, Johnson (GA), Jones (OH), Kilpatrick, Kucinich, Lee, Lewis (GA), Lofgren, Markey, Matsui, McDermott, McGovern, Meek (FL), Michaud, Miller (NC), Miller, George, Moore (WI), Moran (VA), Nadler, Neal (MA), Olver, Pallone, Payne
Price (NC), Rush, Ryan (OH), Sánchez, Linda T., Schakowsky, Scott (VA), Serrano, Sherman, Slaughter, Solis, Stark, Tierney, Towns, Van Hollen, Velázquez, Wasserman Schultz, Waters, Watson, Watt, Waxman, Weiner, Wexler, Woolsey, Wynn and Yarmuth
Nice campaign commercial fodder for their opponents, eh?
Update: Welcome, Instapundit readers, and thanks to Glenn for linking!
Filed under: Democrats, Election 2008, Iraq, Nancy Pelosi, Politics
Which Kalifornia Reps voted against this measure? Linda Sanchez?
Just updated with the list of NAYS, Charlie…
So … who were the 79 voting against the resolution?
Am I not paying enough attention, or are the Dems alot less vocal on the ‘withdrawal now’ meme?
Thanks, Joe. But I knew the answer before I asked the question. Sanchez is unfortunetly my rep, and a hard left, reflexive socialist. And IMNSHO, not a terribly bright one. It surprises me not a bit that she is standing cheek to chubby jowl with MoveOn.
It’s like a whose who of the Congressional Black Caucus.
I read somewhere about the leverage Moveon has now that it has shown how it can raise money for candidates. I also read that the Democratic leadership discusses strategy with the die hard leftists weekly.
As I see it Move0n has so much money that they may well be able to swing elections either way. Moderate dems and Republicans will be in trouble for the 2008 elections.
Isn’t campaign finance reform wonderfull.
Retread: Yeah, they have toned that down a bit, haven’t they?
Gabriel: Hadn’t noticed that. Ironic if it’s true, though — the netroots shafted the CBC over the Fox debate, and here’s the CBC supporting the netroots (in the form of MoveOn.org).
Davod: Eh — If money alone swung elections, that might be something to worry about. Candidates closely associated with MoveOn aren’t going to get many independent or moderate votes this cycle, though…MoveOn saw to that with this ad.
The CBC is run by some of the worst of the worst in the blame America First crowd. Totally Pro-Muslim and anti-Israel. Check their voting records. Kooks like Waters, Jackson-Lee, McKinney etc. all have deep roots in the AmeriKKKa conspiracy nut crowd, going so far as to be 9/11 truthers.
“As I see it Move0n has so much money that they may well be able to swing elections either way.”
Their election record to date is 20 for 21 – losses of their candidates, that is.
Speaking as a Massachusetts life-long
resident, aged 52 years, I am delighted
to see that most of our delegation is as
irrelevant and impotent as ever.
Wow! So Kos is down to only 79 Democrats whom he’ll trust to “get his back”. Must be getting a bit lonely out in the netroots these days.
Joe Tobacco :
It is not just Moveon.org. Soros’s money funds candidates with like views at all levels of government.
Soros’s people put so much money into their candidate that it is impossible for the opposition to compete.
In 2004 he funded Distict Attorney candidates who espoused no drug laws (DA’s who would not enforce the drug laws). He also funded District Attorney candidates and judges who have his type of cxpansive views on criminal penalties (rehabilitation is key, jail at last resort). Views that result in child molesters being given little or no jail time.
I can hardly wait to see what the vote is in the Senate and House on a resolution to condemn Rush Limbaugh for calling any American service member who opposes the Iraq war a “phony soldier” — particularly coming right on the heels of the op-ed opposing the war just last month by seven members of the 82nd Airborne, two of whom are now dead and another shot in the head. Lectures on the authenticity of their service from a pompous, obese, drug-addicted, thrice-divorced loudmouth who himself avoided service due to an incapacitating pilondial cyst are especially charming.
Rush Limbaugh is an opinion jockey. MoveOn is a PAC that has funded many Democratic candidates for office, and which funds efforts like the “Bush=Hitler” ad contest and the sickening Petraeus ad.
You can hate Limbaugh all you like — I personally ignore the guy, have never listened to his show. It’s a little disingenuous to compare him to MoveOn, though, especially if you think deep down that MoveOn did nothing wrong.
Perhaps because you tune him out, I think you underestimate the significance of Rush Limbaugh, Joe. He is a key player in the conservative Republican political movement– which is why he was made an “honorary member” of the House Republican caucus as one of its first acts after taking control of the House in the 1994 elections. He mobilizes and energizes the grassroots, articulates and sharpens the conservative message, and stirs the ideological pot, somewhat like MoveOn does on the left, and Republican politicians kowtow to him in an effort to curry his very important favor. Although his show does not generally feature guests and interviews he makes exceptions for high-profile Republicans. Vice President Cheney has appeared frequently, among others — among the very few public media appearances that Cheney ever makes. Limbaugh’s last marriage was performed by Justice Clarence Thomas.
The mere fact that he’s a buffoon doesn’t mean he is not important in the world of politics.
I’ve said that I don’t approve of MoveOn’s ad. Accusing an Army officer of disloyalty should not be done lightly, and the personal nature was offensive and cheap play on his name stupid and obvious. But I also think that the hullaballoo over it was ridiculous and way overblown. The idea that the United States Senate and House of Representatives would each spend time debating and censuring the private group for a newspaper ad is utterly absurd, and was primarily an effort by the Republican message machine to try to change the subject off of the disastrous and unpopular war.
Rush Limbaugh has also referred, in his nationally syndicated radio show heard by millions of listeners, to Chuck Hagel, a decorated Vietnam vet and sitting (Republican) U.S. Senator, as “Senator Betrayus.”